Obama And Clinton Politics Mud Slinging Turned Mud Wrestling

Well, the Democrats over the weekend have really shown that neither presidential hopeful should be elected. These two act more like little kids on a playground and only one ball.

Please America, neither candidate wants best for you, they want what is best for them. Look at the mudslinging in their own party, each trying to show how their opponent is not good enough.

I do not remember any in party fighting like this in my life. Usually they wait until it party against party…

As far as I am concerned, both Obama and Hillary are liars and cheats, who are motivated by greed and prestige.

I am a bitter America, Bitter at listening to these two idiots. I want Change, I want both of these idiots to SHUT UP.

Sunday was no day of rest for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, who each spent the day in Pennsylvania clamoring for any remaining votes as well as trying to dent their opponent’s image heading into Tuesday’s voting.

And presumptive Republican nominee John McCain also came to the foreground as the candidates sought to show they would be the best in November against the Arizona senator as well as to put a stop to any Democrats who might be thinking about voting for the other team.

Speaking in Reading, Pa., Obama told an audience that “either Democrat would be better than John McCain. … And all three of us would be better than George Bush.

“Seeing an opening, Clinton pounced on those words when she spoke later at a rally in Johnstown, Pa.

“Senator Obama said today that John McCain would be better for the country than George Bush,” Clinton said. “Now, Senator McCain is a real American patriot who has served our country with distinction, but Senator McCain would follow the same failed policies that have been so wrong for our country the last seven years.”

“We need a nominee who will take on John McCain, not cheer on John McCain. And I will be that nominee,” Clinton said in a speech in which she also touched on health care, jobs, the war, college costs and energy prices.

For its part, the McCain campaign said Obama’s remark just proves McCain’s the right man for the job. Said Tucker Bounds, a McCain spokesman: “The remark underscores that John McCain has the strength to change America and move this nation forward. Barack Obama is a new face who represents old ideas.

“It has been six weeks since any votes have been cast in the Democratic nomination and Clinton now faces a test in which she must not only win Tuesday’s vote, but continue to win by strong enough margins to regain the lead in the delegate count.

Clinton has 1,507 delegates to Obama’s 1,645. They both need 2,025 to win. There are 158 pledged delegates at stake in Pennsylvania.

The latest RealClearPolitics.com average of recent polls puts Clinton ahead by a scant 5.6 percent in a state where she once led Obama by nearly 20 points. Some observers say Clinton must at least win by double digits in the Keystone State if she wants to have a chance at taking the nomination.

Meanwhile, the campaign rhetoric between the two has ratcheted up to a fever pace.

Sunday the two candidates traded barbs as they pounded through the Keystone State in a blitz for votes in the final hours before voting begins. Health care, the economy, honesty and the question over who has the least questionable associations highlighted the candidates’ attacks on each other, and the two unveiled new advertisements aimed at crippling one another.

“She’s taken more money from lobbyists and special interest than any candidate, Republican or Democrat. … When you ask yourself why it is that we don’t have health care that everyone can count on, think that drug and insurance companies have spent a billion dollars in the last 10 years in lobbying and contributions and PR, so it’s surprising that laws that are passed in Washington are good for them, but not as good for you,” Obama said in Reading.

In Bethlehem, Pa., Clinton reminded her audience of the stakes later this week, and chided Obama for negative remarks.

“This week, we had a debate and it showed you the choice you have. And it’s no wonder that my opponent has been so negative these last few days of the campaign. Because I think you saw a big — you saw a big difference between us. It’s really a choice of leadership,” Clinton said. “I’m offering leadership you can count on.

“The two also blanketed the state with attack ads.”In the last 10 years Barack Obama has taken almost $2 million from lobbyists, corporations and PACs. The head of his New Hampshire campaign is a drug company lobbyist, in Indiana an energy lobbyist, a casino lobbyist in Nevada,” said a new Clinton commercial airing in the campaign’s final days.

If anything, Obama upped the ante with his rebuttal. His ad said he “doesn’t take money from special interest PACs or Washington lobbyists — not one dime.” Clinton does, it added, and accused her of “eleventh-hour smears paid for by lobbyist money.”

Clinton also has sought to paint Obama as elitist following remarks he made about small town voters, while Obama’s campaign has jumped on a recent poll showing new erosion among voters’ belief in Clinton’s honesty. Obama also has been forced to distance himself from his bombastic former pastor, and Clinton had to admit misspeaking about a trip to Kosovo in her husband’s administration.

In the meantime, campaign surrogates handicapped their candidate’s chances on the Sunday talk circles.Clinton supporter Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., says the race isn’t a lock, but Pennsylvania and the next-biggest remaining prize, Indiana, are in her sights.

“I think that she’s going to do very well in Pennsylvania, and I think she’s going to better than either the polls, which have always underestimated her, or the pundits have stated,” Schumer said on “FOX News Sunday.”

Predicting a win by a “significant amount” in Pennsylvania, she added: “I think she’s going to win in Indiana. And I think that she has momentum, and you’re going to see people saying Hillary Clinton is the best candidate to both beat John McCain.”

Clinton’s newly appointed chief strategist Geoff Garin suggested the New York senator will continue her campaign no matter what the outcome on Pennsylvania primary day.”

We’re going to let the process play through,” Garin said during an interview Sunday on NBC’s Meet the Press.

And though he acknowledged that Clinton will have to “do well” in the remaining contests, Garin stressed that “neither candidate will have enough pledged delegates when the last votes are cast on June 3.” He also advised that unpledged superdelegates wait until the last contest to cast their votes.

But, also on “FOX News Sunday,” Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill. — an Obama supporter — said the odds are stacked against Clinton.”

The math is very unforgiving at this point when it comes to delegate counts, and that’s what it’s all about,” Durbin said.”

Senator Clinton needs more than 60 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania. … If you look at the remaining contests, you understand that the Clinton campaign is running out of real estate. There are only a handful of states left. She needs over 60 percent of the vote in each one of them to catch up with Barack Obama,” Durbin said.

But the question of whether Clinton should step aside should be up to her, and her alone, said Obama’s chief campaign strategist David Axelrod, who appeared alongside Garin.”

I don’t believe anyone should tell Senator Clinton to get out of the race,” said Axelrod, who criticized Clinton on a wide range of issues.The two campaigns are also attacking each other on the airwaves, although Obama has been outspending his rival about 2-to-1.

The Clinton campaign was sore after a new Obama ad released this weekend that criticized Clinton’s health care proposal because, Obama’s ad said, Clinton’s plan mandates people to have health insurance, and would penalize those who do not.

Clinton responded Saturday: “I just heard that my opponent has put up an ad attacking my health care plan, which is kind of curious, because my plan covers of everybody, and his plan leaves out 15 million. … Now instead of attacking the problem, he chooses to attack my solution.

Obama Saturday night in Lancaster focused on on the subject of NAFTA, saying Clinton supported it during her husband’s administration, but then has come out against it during the campaign. “She can talk about supporting NAFTA when … her husband’s president. And she says, you know, she’s out there campaigning for it, and then suddenly she’s running for president and says she opposes it,” Obama said.

FOX News’ Bonney Kapp and Aaron Bruns and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

ABCNews has more with some of the more humorous ones in the start…

In the final push before the Pennsylvania primary Tuesday, the Democratic candidates traded some of their sharpest jabs yet, again raising concerns that when the brawl is over, the party will not be able to unite for the fight for the presidency.

Barack Obama accused Hillary Clinton of “slash and burn politics.” Clinton countered that he is all flash and no substance, and she claimed he is now throwing the kitchen sink at her.

Obama conceded that Clinton would be a better president than George Bush. “But that’s not saying very much,” he quickly added.

Obama said all three candidates — including presumptive Republican nominee John McCain — would be better than Bush.

Clinton took issue with Obama’s apparent olive branch for the Arizona senator.

“We need a nominee who will take on John McCain, not cheer on John McCain,” she said.

Obama also launched a new ad, responding to Clinton’s previous attacks and accusing her of “11th-hour smears, paid for by lobbyists.”

Clinton’s campaign countered with another attack ad of its own, charging, “He couldn’t answer tough questions in the debate, so Barack Obama is making false charges about Hillary’s health plan.”

Supporters of both campaigns have gone even further.

A retired major general who supports Obama raised Clinton’s claims that she dodged sniper fire during her 1996 trip to Bosnia. Walter Stewart called that a “dishonor,” and said it should disqualify her from laying wreaths at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

A Clinton supporter is circulating a mailer raising the issue of Obama’s acquaintance with Bill Ayers, a Chicago professor who was once a member of the violent Weather Underground.

The mailer, created by union activist Rick Sloan of the International Association of Machinists, claims Republicans will “channel Joe McCarthy” in the fall, turning Obama’s “change we can believe in” into “change no patriotic American could stomach.”

Both campaigns have disavowed those particular statements.

But Democratic Party activists in Pennsylvania said they worry the bitterness could make it difficult to mend fences once the dust settles.

“This has gotten so bad this year, I’m not sure people can forget about it and put it behind themselves after Tuesday,” said Joe Morgan, a Democratic committeeman for Berks County.

He said the supporters are worse than the candidates when it comes to vindictive attacks.

“The bitterness and anger they have toward people who are not supporting their candidate is something I have never seen before,” he said.

Morgan has been writing his own blog on the race, so at first he decided to remain neutral. He said Obama fans in particular were incensed with him for doing so. His tires were slashed and a complaint was lodged with the Internet service provider for his blog. Morgan is now supporting Clinton.

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