Hajib Murder – Islamification Of Canada

Where to start…

Well let’s start at the title, the liberal media opens this one with Allegedly Kills, when the article clearly states he admitted to killing her. There is no Allegedly here…

In another episode of Islamification, the issue of Hajibs, comes out again as well as the submission of women in Islam. The troubling part is this did not happen in a Muslim country, it happened in Canada. They are bringing their religious laws to our countries and enforcing them. Sharia is coming to a town near you…

These Muslims come to our country and want us to change for them, then they want to force their culture on us, pretty soon we become them. This is the liberal legacy left behind and if we do not do something about it soon, our own cultures will fade away in a see of Political Correctness…

Update: For those interested in learning about how culture of honor killing that this definitely falls under… See Gendercide Watch

Dad Allegedly Kills Girl Over Head Scarf

By Jonathan Spicer,

Reuters

Posted: 2007-12-11 18:17:27

TORONTO (Dec. 11) – A Canadian teenager who was said to have clashed with her father about whether she should wear a traditional Muslim head scarf died of injuries late on Monday, and her father told police he had killed her.

 

Peel District School Board / Handout / Reuters

A memorial for Aqsa Parvez is set up at her high school near Toronto. Some of her classmates were quoted as saying she wore traditional Muslim dress when leaving her house in the morning, but would change into other clothes in school washrooms.

Aqsa Parvez, 16, was found without a pulse in her home in the Toronto suburb of Mississauga earlier on Monday. She was resuscitated by paramedics, treated at two hospitals, and later succumbed to her injuries, police said on Tuesday.

Her father, 57-year-old Muhammad Parvez, has been charged with murder and was remanded back into custody after his first court appearance early on Tuesday.

“There was a 911 call placed by a man who indicated that he had just killed his daughter,” Jodi Dawson, a constable with Peel Regional Police, told Reuters. “Everything else is evidentiary in nature and the investigation is in its preliminary stages at this point.”

The victim’s brother, Waqas Parvez, 26, was arrested and charged with obstructing police.

The story was on the front pages of Canadian newspapers on Tuesday. The newspapers quoted friends and schoolmates of the victim as saying she argued with her father over wearing a hijab, the traditional head scarf worn by Muslim females.

Photos of the teen retrieved from a social networking Web site show her in Western dress with her long dark hair loose.

“She was always scared of her dad, she was always scared of her brother,” the Toronto Star quoted a classmate as saying.

Others were quoted as saying the girl wore traditional Muslim dress when leaving the house in the morning, but would change into other clothes in school washrooms.

Dawson said investigators will likely speak to the victim’s schoolmates. The father will return for a bail hearing on Wednesday.

Al Qaeda Linked Group Responsible For Algeria Bombing

Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) AKA Al Qaeda Islamic Maghreb has claimed responsibility for the two bombs that went off near the UN offices and Constitutional Council buildings in Algiers and identified the two bombers  as Sheikh Ibrahim Abu Othman and Abdel Rahman Abu Abdel Nasser al-Asimi.

ALGIERS, Algeria (CNN) — Rescuers are sifting through the rubble of the United Nations headquarters in Algiers hoping to find survivors after a powerful bomb ripped off the building’s facade and leveled nearby U.N. offices.

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Rescuers and bomb experts search for survivors in the rubble of a destroyed building.

It was one of two suspected car bombs that struck Algiers within 10 minutes of each other.

The death toll is unclear: the official government count is at least 26, but hospital sources in Algiers told CNN affiliate BFM-TV that 76 people were killed in the two blasts. A statement from the United Nations said 45 people were reported killed.

Algerian Interior Minister Noureddine Yazid Zerhouni blamed a militant Islamic group with ties to al Qaeda for the attacks, which also targeted a building housing Algeria’s Constitutional Council and Supreme Court.

In a posting on an Islamist Web site, the group al Qaeda Islamic Maghreb claimed responsibility.

CNN could not immediately corroborate that claim, but the Web site is known to carry messages, claims and videos from al Qaeda and other militant groups.

In the posting, the bombers were identified as Sheikh Ibrahim Abu Othman and Abdel Rahman Abu Abdel Nasser al-Asimi. It said two trucks were filled with “no less than 800 kg (1,763 pounds) of explosives.”

The group called the operation “another successful conquest and a second epic that the knights of faith have dictated with their blood, defending the wounded Islamic nation and in defiance to the Crusaders and their agents, the slaves of America and the sons of France.”

At least 10 U.N. staffers were among those killed, according to U.N. spokeswoman Marie Okabe.

The offices of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees — located across the street from the U.N. headquarters — were leveled by a blast that struck about 9:30 a.m. (3:30 a.m. ET) Tuesday.

“Our offices are basically destroyed now, nothing works,” UNHCR spokesman Ron Redmond said from its Geneva headquarters. Watch his full interview Video

He said rescuers are working into the night trying to get to the trapped U.N. workers. “It’s a very serious situation still with the U.N. in Algiers,” he said.

In a strongly worded statement, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned what he called “an abjectly cowardly strike against civilian officials serving humanity’s highest ideals under the U.N. banner.”

“The perpetrators of these crimes will not escape the strongest possible condemnation — and ultimate punishment — by Algerian authorities and the international community,” Ban said in the written statement.

He said he has sent senior advisers and other top U.N. officials to head to Algiers to assist in the investigation and rescue effort.

Most of those killed in the coordinated attacks were victims of the first suspected car bombing near the Constitutional Council — which oversees elections — and Supreme Court in the Algiers neighborhood of Ben Aknoun, according to the state-run Algeria Press Agency.

That blast struck a bus outside the targeted building, killing many of those on board, the news agency reported.

One man said he heard the first blast then the second exploded in front of him. “I saw the trees falling and the glass shattering in front of me. I had to run away from the car,” he said.

Zerhouni said the attack was the work of the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), the same group that took responsibility for an attack in April in downtown Algiers that killed 33 people.

That group also uses the name al Qaeda Islamic Maghreb after merging with al Qaeda earlier this year. It abandoned small-scale attacks in favor of headline-grabbing blasts after it joined with al Qaeda.

CNN International Security Correspondent Paula Newton said the merger combined the expertise of Algerian guerrillas with the operational ability of al Qaeda in North Africa, enabling the group to penetrate the usually extensive security in high-profile areas of Algiers.

She said the group’s goal is to destabilize countries like Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia, which it sees as enemies of the Islamic state.

Zerhouni said police interrogations of GSPC members arrested in the wake of the April attack revealed that Algeria’s Constitutional Council and Supreme Court were on a list of GSPC targets.

Algeria, which has a population of 33 million, is still recovering from more than a decade of violence that began after the military government called a halt to elections which an Islamist party was poised to win.

Tens of thousands of people died in the unrest. Although the country has remained relatively peaceful, recent terrorist attacks have raised fears of a slide back to violence

Islamic Tsunami Washing Through Europe

Sounds like someone in the Netherlands has finally woken up… The response to this movie is overwheming in terms of how Muslims expected to be treated better than other people, but reserve the right to force their ideology on us.  This is an issue of freedom of speech as well as freedom of religion. Bravo Mr. Wilders for identifying and speaking up about the troubles that are sweeping through the EU, but being protected by Political Correctness and Liberal Self Hatred of their own countrymen.

 Threats of murder. Fears of riots and religious violence. Demands for censorship. Politicians in hiding, fearing for their lives. A government preparing for the worst.

It’s happening right now in a most unlikely place … the Netherlands, once regarded as Europe’s quietest and most stable nation.

And it’s all happening because of a 10-minute movie that hasn’t even been made yet.

It’s the work of Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, who calls his movie “a call to shake off the creeping tyranny of Islamicization.” Wilders plans to present it to his country on television sometime next month.

“People who watch the movie will see that the Koran is very much alive today, leading to the destruction of everything we in the Western world stand for, which is respect and tolerance,” Wilders, the 41-year-old leader of the right-wing Party for Freedom, said in a telephone interview.

“The tsunami of Islamicization is coming to Europe. We should come to be far stronger.”

Like other European countries, the Netherlands is struggling to cope with an influx of Muslim immigrants, and the newcomers are often relegated to working at low-paying jobs and living in high-crime ghettos. Though the Dutch boast of their culture of tolerance, tensions have been high, with some blaming rising unemployment and crime on newcomers from Muslim countries like Turkey, Morocco and Somalia.

In the late 1990s, political leaders like Pim Fortuyn, Somalian-born writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali and outspoken filmmaker Theo van Gogh seemed to tap into a growing well of resentment against Muslims and criticism of Islam.

In 2002, tensions broke into outright murder when Fortuyn was shot by an animal rights activist who told the judge in the case that he was acting on behalf of the country’s Muslims. Two years later, van Gogh was shot, stabbed and nearly decapitated on an Amsterdam street by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Muslim and a Dutch citizen of Moroccan descent.

Van Gogh, with Hirsi Ali, had recently made the film “Submission,” a 10-minute movie that the two said depicted the abuse of women in Islamic cultures. After van Gogh’s murder, the Dutch government placed public figures known for their anti-Muslim stances in safehouses.

Among them was the parliamentarian Geert Wilders. He hasn’t been out of government protection since, a situation he said “I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy,” and his views on Islam have only hardened.

Four months ago, he called for the Koran to be outlawed in the Netherlands.

“I believe our culture is much better than the retarded Islamic cultures,” he told FOXNews.com in a telephone interview. “Ninety-nine percent of the intolerance in the world comes back to the Islamic religion and the Koran.”

Though he refuses to claim the mantle of van Gogh’s successor, Wilders clearly sees himself as continuing the controversial filmmaker’s work. He acknowledges the similarities between “Submission” and his own 10-minute work, about five minutes of which have been completed, he said.

“I have so much respect for van Gogh’s movie, aimed at one part of the Koran, women’s bodies, one very bad part of the Koran,” Wilders said. “I will use not only that theme but many others. Of course at the end it is a different movie.”

Though Wilders has remained steadfastly vague about the specific contents of his movie, saying he wants to maximize the “moment of the broadcast itself,” he added that it will include “images and parts of real-time movies that really happen in the Netherlands and the U.K. and the Middle East, the intolerance of the Koran that is still alive and vivid today.”

Wilders, raised Catholic but long an atheist, said he’s working with professors who are experts on the Koran and Islamic culture, professional filmmakers and scriptwriters to complete his film, which he hopes to broadcast next month on “Nova,” a popular news program on Dutch public television. If “Nova” refuses to air the program, he said, he will broadcast the movie using the air time his political party is guaranteed by the government.

The Dutch government, which is protecting Wilders, has publicly warned him about the potential for violence at the completion of his film and has expressed concern over his personal safety. The government is also concerned about peace within the country and interests abroad. In 2005, cartoons printed in a Danish newspaper led to Danish embassies being set on fire, multi-million-dollar anti-Danish consumer boycotts in the Middle East, and hundreds of deaths in riots across the Muslim world.

“The government is taking the announcement of this movie quite seriously,” said Floris van Hovell, a spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Washington, D.C. “Obviously, because the movie hasn’t been made, we cannot say anything about the movie until the movie has been shown, but the message Mr. Wilders has told us he wants to portray is disturbing.”

Asked if the government plans to beef up security, Van Hovell said he couldn’t comment. But he did say that the government is making a concerted effort to reach out to the Muslim community in the Netherlands and the larger Muslim world.

“We’re explaining that in the Netherlands you have freedom of expression, and that at the same time the Dutch government is very concerned about the message Mr. Wilders supposedly wants to portray in his movie,” van Hovell said.

Wilders has requested additional personal security from the government.

Wilders’ rhetoric may have struck a chord among a part of the Dutch population. One poll suggests that if elections were held today, his Freedom Party would win 26 seats in the 150-seat Tweede Kamer — Holland’s House of Representatives — up from nine the party won last November.

Muslim reaction to Wilders’ film has been predictably less supportive. Some are calling for it to be outlawed before it is broadcast, and groups of both Muslims and non-Muslims have publicly denounced the film.

“I think he’s addicted to the attention of the media,” said Zainab al-Touraihi, secretary-general of the Contact Body for Muslims, the official Muslim advisory body to the Dutch government. “He’s doing it for political reasons, and I’m sure he’s getting more and more votes. And that’s the scary thing, actually.”

She said she supported Wilders’ right to make the movie, though she said she was certain it would be skewed and harmful to both Dutch Muslims and the Netherlands as a whole.

“He would like to see that every Muslim woman is in prayers and held at home and that they have no rights, but he’s not looking at Muslims these days,” she said. “The Koran is a matter of interpretation, just like the Bible and the Torah. You need to interpret, not take it literally.”

Al-Touraihi’s group has long had a standing invitation to Wilders to speak to its members or take part in a debate. And Wilders has always ignored it, she said.

“If he really believed in these things, he would go out and sit with us and talk about issues, but he’s never responded, so it’s a one-man show and a one-way show,” al-Touraihi said. “As a member of parliament, he can get every camera in front of him and say whatever he wants, but he never goes out for debates because I think he knows that he would lose voters.”

For Wilders, though, all the criticism is just proof that he’s on the right path.

“The reaction is proof of how much the movie is needed,” he said. “This is not Morocco. We’re living in the Kingdom of the Netherlands, a free country.”

Islamic Terrorist Attack UN Refugee Agency In Alegria

Jihad on a UN Refugee Agency and Constitution Council in Algeria has killed at least 10 UN workers and many others in two bomb attacks. Some of the victims were on a school bus, so chances are these were children that the Islamic terrorist killed.

Two car bomb attacks, one of which targeted offices of the U.N. refugee agency, killed at least 45 people in the Algerian capital on Tuesday, authorities said.

The civil protection agency said one attack killed 30 people and that a second blast left another 15 people dead.

Interior Minister Noureddine Yazid Zerhouni, quoted by the official news agency APS, said the targets were the offices of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees and the seat of Algeria’s Constitutional Council.

The UNHCR’s chief spokesman, Ron Redmond, confirmed that the agency’s Algiers office was hit by an apparent car bomb, and that some staff were injured. He said the explosion happened at about 9:30 a.m. (0830 GMT) in a street where the offices of the UNHCR and the U.N. Development Program are both located.

“What is suspected to be a car bomb went off in the street,” he said.

APS said some victims of one of the attacks had been riding a school bus.

Public radio, Algiers Network 3, said the two bombs went off about 10 minutes apart.

Algerian TV images broadcast in France showed a badly damaged building with many windows blown out.

Algeria has been battling Islamic insurgents since the early 1990s, when the army canceled the second round of the country’s first-ever multiparty elections, stepping in to prevent likely victory by an Islamic fundamentalist party.

Islamist armed groups then turned to force to overthrow the government, with up to 200,000 people killed in the ensuing violence.

The last year has seen a series of bombings — many of them hitherto unheard of suicide attacks — against state targets.

Recent bombings have been claimed by al-Qaida in Islamic North Africa. That was the name adopted in January after the remnants of the insurgency, the Salafist Group for Call and Combat, or GSPC, formally linked with al-Qaida.

Once focused on toppling the Algerian government, the group has now turned its sights on international holy war and the fight against Western interests. French counterterrorism officials say it is drawing members from across North Africa.

A Sept. 6 attack during President Abdelaziz Bouteflika’s visit to the eastern city of Batna killed 22 people, and a suicide bombing two days later on a coast guard barracks in the town of Dellys left at least 28 dead.

From the NY Times:

At Least 45 Dead in Algiers Bombings

Zohra Bensemra/Reuters

The Constitutional Court building in Algiers after the bombing today.

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Published: December 12, 2007

PARIS, Dec. 11 — Two car bombs exploded in close succession in the Algerian capital today, killing at least 45 people and wounding several others, according to Algerian officials. One official said it was the worst day of violence in the capital this decade.

Thirty people died in a blast near the Constitutional Court building in Algiers, while another 15 were killed in a second explosion near a number of United Nations offices, a diplomat said, citing information released by the Algerian Civil Protection Agency.

The Algerian interior minister, Noureddine Yazid Zerhouni, said that in both cases explosives had been strapped to vehicles, the Algerian press agency reported on its web site.

There was no immediate indication whether the twin attacks were the work of a well-known Salafist terrorist group with a long history of violence and alleged links to Al Qaeda.

The Group for Preaching and Combat, which is better known by its French initials, GSPC, has been under close watch by American and European counter-terrorism officials for several years.

The scrutiny intensified after the group announced last year that it had joined Al Qaeda in a bid to become its North African arm and organize extremists across the region.

Algeria suffered from intense violence after the Algerian army staged a coup to prevent an Islamic party from winning elections in 1992. The violence eventually subsided, but in recent years sporadic attacks have continued to disrupt life in Algeria and neighboring countries.

On April 11, a suicide bomb killed 33 people in Algiers. Responsibility for that attack was claimed by GSPC, also known as Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

That the bombing today occurred on the 11th of the month may be significant. The attack in April also occurred on the 11th. Both bring to mind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States and the March 11, 2004, bombings in Madrid. After the April bombing, some terrorism experts suggested that the attacks added to the accumulating symbolism of that day of the month.

The aim of the terrorist group is to overthrow the government and install an Islamic theocracy in Algeria and throughout North Africa.

Al Qaeda’ s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahri, publicly anointed the group as Al Qaeda’s representative in North Africa on the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, and in January the group changed its name to Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, a region that includes Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco.

The group has apparently undergone a revival since then, drawing new members from across North Africa, terrorism experts in Europe and North Africa say. Governments on both sides of the Mediterranean fear that the group is coalescing into a regional terror movement.

Graham Bowley contributed reporting from New York.

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Television grab image taken from Algerian television channel Canal Algerie 11 shows people on the site of the explosion outside the Algiers office of the UN Higher Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), 11 Dec 2007
Television grab image taken from Algerian television channel Canal Algerie 11 shows people on the site of the explosion outside the Algiers office of the UN Higher Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), 11 Dec 2007

BBC

Rescuers search for survivors in the rubbles of a destroyed building close to the UN offices

Dozens of people have been killed in two bomb blasts in the Algerian capital, Algiers. Many are feared trapped in the debris of collapsed buildings.

Destroyed building of the United Nations refugee agency offices

The first struck the central El Biar area, near the constitutional court, followed shortly afterwards by an attack on this UN building in the Hydra neighbourhood.

Destroyed building of the United Nations refugee agency, Algiers

Algerian Interior Minister Yazid Zerhouni said the explosions were caused by two car bombs – with the second involving a suicide bomber.

A firefighter searches the rubble of a destroyed building near the UN offices

“The death toll is very high,” Mr Zerhouni said after the attacks, without giving a precise figure.

Rescue workers and bomb experts search a collapsed building for survivors

A UN employee caught up in the second blast told the BBC: “Everything shattered. Everything fell. I hid under a piece of furniture so I wouldn’t be hit by the debris.”

 

Rescuers wait to evacuate victims in the destroyed UN building, Algiers

The UN worker described swarms of people out on the streets, which initially impeded emergency services reaching the wounded.

Rescue workers and bomb experts inspect damaged cars near the destroyed UN building

There has been no immediate claim of responsibility. This is the latest in a series of bombings across the country this year in which scores of people have died.

Rescue workers search for survivors at a destroyed building near the UN offices

Many of the recent blasts have been claimed by members of al-Qaeda’s North Africa wing, calling themselves al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

From the AFP:

Algerian rescue workers and bomb experts search for survivors under the rubble

Waterboarding Necessary Sometimes

The controversial waterboarding technique is a necessary tool for interrogators of terrorists and on top of that it works for extracting information. Many reports  talk about how torture does not get reliable information out of the suspect, however if you carefully read the transcripts carefully, you will see that attacks were prevented due to information optained using waterboarding on Abu Zubaydah.

Now, should this be used on every terrorist suspect? No. But there are terrorists that have intimate knowledge of operations and plans and these ones need to given incentive to talk, if that incentive is torture, then so be it.

This interview with a former CIA intel officer outlines where it is necessary and the value of such techniques. See the video and transcripts at the end of the post…

A leader of the CIA team that captured the first major al Qaeda figure, Abu Zubaydah, says subjecting him to waterboarding was torture but necessary.

In the first public comment by any CIA officer involved in handling high-value al Qaeda targets, John Kiriakou, now retired, said the technique broke Zubaydah in less than 35 seconds.

“The next day, he told his interrogator that Allah had visited him in his cell during the night and told him to cooperate,” said Kiriakou in an interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News With Charles Gibson” and “Nightline.”

“From that day on, he answered every question,” Kiriakou said. “The threat information he provided disrupted a number of attacks, maybe dozens of attacks.”

Kiriakou said the feeling in the months after the 9/11 attacks was that interrogators did not have the time to delve into the agency’s bag of other interrogation tricks.”Those tricks of the trade require a great deal of time — much of the time — and we didn’t have that luxury. We were afraid that there was another major attack coming,” he said.

Kiriakou says he did not know that the interrogation of Zubaydah was being secretly recorded by the CIA and had no idea the tapes had been destroyed.

Now retired, Kiriakou, who declined to use the enhanced interrogation techniques, says he has come to believe that water boarding is torture but that perhaps the circumstances warranted it.

“Like a lot of Americans, I’m involved in this internal, intellectual battle with myself weighing the idea that waterboarding may be torture versus the quality of information that we often get after using the waterboarding technique,” Kiriakou told ABC News. “And I struggle with it.”

But he says the urgency in the wake of 9/ll led to a desire to do everything possible to get actionable intelligence.

That began with Abu Zubaydah’s capture following a series of raids in which Kiriakou co-led a team of CIA officers, FBI agents, a Port Authority police officer named Tom McHale and Pakistani police, including a SWAT team.

And, in the case of Abu Zubayda, it ended with waterboarding.

“What happens if we don’t waterboard a person, and we don’t get that nugget of information, and there’s an attack,” Kiriakou said. “I would have trouble forgiving myself.”

The former intelligence officer says the interrogators’ activities were carefully directed from Langley, Va., each step of the way.

It wasn’t up to individual interrogators to decide, ‘Well, I’m gonna slap him.’ Or, ‘I’m going to shake him.’ Or, ‘I’m gonna make him stay up for 48 hours.’

“Each one of these steps, even though they’re minor steps, like the intention shake, or the open-handed belly slap, each one of these had to have the approval of the deputy director for operations,” Kiriakou told ABC News.

“The cable traffic back and forth was extremely specific,” he said. “And the bottom line was these were very unusual authorities that the agency got after 9/11. No one wanted to mess them up. No one wanted to get in trouble by going overboard. So it was extremely deliberate.”

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And it was always a last resort.

“That’s why so few people were waterboarded. I think the agency has said that two people were waterboarded, Abu Zubaydah being one, and it’s because you really wanted it to be a last resort because we didn’t want these false confessions. We didn’t want wild goose chases,” Kiriakou said.

And they were faced with men like Abu Zubaydah, Kiriakou says, who held critical and timely intelligence.

“A former colleague of mine asked him during the conversation one day, ‘What would you do if we decided to let you go one day?’ And he said, ‘I would kill every American and Jew I could get my hands on…It’s nothing personal. You’re a nice guy. But this is who I am.'”

In that context, at that time, Kiriakou says he felt waterboarding was something the United States needed to do.

“At the time, I felt that waterboarding was something that we needed to do. And as time has passed, and as September 11th has, you know, has moved farther and farther back into history, I think I’ve changed my mind,” he told ABC News.

Part of his decision appears to be an ethical one; another part, perhaps, simply pragmatic.

“I think we’re chasing them all over the world. I think we’ve had a great deal of success chasing them…and, as a result, waterboarding, at least right now, is unnecessary,” Kirikou said.

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Brian Ross: “Did it compromise American principles? Or did it save American lives? Or both?”

John Kiriakou: “I think both. It may have compromised our principles at least in the short term. And I think it’s good that we’re having a national debate about this. We should be debating this, and Congress should be talking about it because, I think, as a country, we have to decide if this is something that we want to do as a matter of policy. I’m not saying now that we should, but, at the very least, we should be talking about it. It shouldn’t be secret. It should be out there as part of the national debate.”

A CIA spokesperson declined to specifically address Kiriakou’s comments.

In a statement, the CIA reiterated its long standing position that “the United States does not conduct or condone torture. The CIA’s terrorist interrogation effort has always been small, carefully run, lawful and highly productive.”

Transcripts:

Click Here for Part One of the Transcript with John Kiriakou.

Click Here for Part Two of the Transcript with John Kiriakou.

Video Interview

Former CIA Agent Speaks Out, Part 1

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